Co prawda to nie do mnie telefon, ale słuchawkę podniosę...
Na DITLu wyraznie pisze ze Defender to byla jedna z proponowanych wersji Excelsiora.
DITL:
The Defender class was one of several designs produced around the 2280s as a possible successor to the Constitution class heavy cruisers. Starfleet was driving strongly for much higher warp speeds for its ships during this period, most notably in the Excelsior project which was to incorporate transwarp drive in a move dubbed "the great experiment".
The Defender class was considered a fall back option. Starfleet wanted a ship which would be significantly more capable than the existing Constitutions, but would use existing technology to achieve this goal.
When the great experiment did indeed end in failure, Starfleet endured considerable public embarrassment. The fact that the unstable transwarp drive had only avoided a catastrophic nacelle implosion on its first flight because renegade Starfleet officers had sabotaged the system was an added humiliation. The Defender project team looked forwards to the cancellation of the Excelsior project and a big production run for their ship.
Wyraźnie wynika z tego, że Defender i Excelsior to były dwa różne projekty. Nie wersje - projekty.
I jeszcze:
The designers responded with a vessel which utilized a refit-Constitution class saucer section attached to a brand new engineering hull. Although the warp drive was not at all innovative in terms of the technology employed, the hull configuration was rather unusual in that four nacelles were to be employed in a much flatter, more subspace-streamlined configuration.
Excelsior ma spodek inny, niż Constitution - Refit. Wniosek?
Defender to nie Excelsior.
Jak chcesz zobaczyć dwa różne warianty tego samego typu, przyjrzyj się Mirandzie i Soyuzowi. Oficjalnie są określane jako dwie różne klasy, prawda? A różnica między nimi jest nie za duża 😛
Według opisu Defender różni się od Excelsiora. W żadnym wypadku nie może być uznany za jego wersję .
A...Jeszcze coś...
Skoro Excelsior v4 (4 prototyp), mial byc opracowywany jako nastepca Constitutiona i kandydat do napedu transwarp...
A gdzieś Ty to znalazł?? Przecież sam twierdzisz, że
Pomine juz fakt, ze Defendera znalazlem tylko w DITL i Mirandzie
Nie widze na DITL-u info o tym, aby Defender miał być "łamaczem transwarp". Widzę za to, że
The Defender class was considered a fall back option. Starfleet wanted a ship which would be significantly more capable than the existing Constitutions, but would use existing technology to achieve this goal.
Mocniejszy - tak. Transwarp... Gdzie?
